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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 19:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have &lt;a href=&quot;webcomicweek.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a blog about webcomics&lt;/a&gt; dedicated to precisely this purpose: sharing good comics that I enjoy. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have <a href="webcomicweek.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">a blog about webcomics</a> dedicated to precisely this purpose: sharing good comics that I enjoy. :)</p>
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		<title>By: KEZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KEZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 01:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rebecca: Thanks for commenting! I&#039;m glad you already link comics you&#039;re reading. We need more people like you! If you have any comic friends, prod them to do the same, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rebecca: Thanks for commenting! I&#8217;m glad you already link comics you&#8217;re reading. We need more people like you! If you have any comic friends, prod them to do the same, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: KEZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KEZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 01:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Morgan: None of that please! This blog is about comic encouragement and information, regardless of anyone you may disagree with OFF my site. 

You bring up a good argument though, one that divides comics as a business, and comics as a hobby. Just like if I went to a Burger King I would understand the lack of MacDonald&#039;s advertisements, when money is involved, the game changes. 

The thing is, if a money-making comic directs people to a site that is NOT interested in revenue, there is no conflict. Generally, small, good, comics are in it for the art, not the money, so I&#039;d love to see more linking out there!

The best of both worlds is a place like Topatoco, where everyone involved gets the OPPORTUNITY to sell things together, and cross advertising all around lets the audience of one know the other exists (and vice versa.) The give and take is equal, and most probably, joining together increases the revenue of everyone involved. 

But back to my original reason subject in this essay, the &quot;webcomic community&quot; isn&#039;t in it for the money. We should definitely be linking each other more. Thanks for commenting, and sorry if I come off a bit sharp in the beginning there. Bengo is a friend of mine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Morgan: None of that please! This blog is about comic encouragement and information, regardless of anyone you may disagree with OFF my site. </p>
<p>You bring up a good argument though, one that divides comics as a business, and comics as a hobby. Just like if I went to a Burger King I would understand the lack of MacDonald&#8217;s advertisements, when money is involved, the game changes. </p>
<p>The thing is, if a money-making comic directs people to a site that is NOT interested in revenue, there is no conflict. Generally, small, good, comics are in it for the art, not the money, so I&#8217;d love to see more linking out there!</p>
<p>The best of both worlds is a place like Topatoco, where everyone involved gets the OPPORTUNITY to sell things together, and cross advertising all around lets the audience of one know the other exists (and vice versa.) The give and take is equal, and most probably, joining together increases the revenue of everyone involved. </p>
<p>But back to my original reason subject in this essay, the &#8220;webcomic community&#8221; isn&#8217;t in it for the money. We should definitely be linking each other more. Thanks for commenting, and sorry if I come off a bit sharp in the beginning there. Bengo is a friend of mine!</p>
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		<title>By: KEZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KEZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 01:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bengo I had no idea about that with Unshelved! I had the good fortune of being able to attend a McCloud presentation once, and no wonder he can make it work that way! I&#039;m so glad we have people like him educating the world about comics (lest we leave it to Spider-Man 4. guh!) So, yes, I personally endorse the symposium method. I think it&#039;s a wonderful alternative to displaying ads on the site or attempting merchandise sales. 

Thanks for the rest of your comments as well! Just ONCE I&#039;d like to see one of the big guys link a little guy who ISN&#039;T their groupie, or fan, or relative--just a link of merit. One day I&#039;ll make a &quot;findnewcomics.com&quot; site, JUST for that purpose. Someone feel free to beat me to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bengo I had no idea about that with Unshelved! I had the good fortune of being able to attend a McCloud presentation once, and no wonder he can make it work that way! I&#8217;m so glad we have people like him educating the world about comics (lest we leave it to Spider-Man 4. guh!) So, yes, I personally endorse the symposium method. I think it&#8217;s a wonderful alternative to displaying ads on the site or attempting merchandise sales. </p>
<p>Thanks for the rest of your comments as well! Just ONCE I&#8217;d like to see one of the big guys link a little guy who ISN&#8217;T their groupie, or fan, or relative&#8211;just a link of merit. One day I&#8217;ll make a &#8220;findnewcomics.com&#8221; site, JUST for that purpose. Someone feel free to beat me to it.</p>
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		<title>By: rebecca burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebecca burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 00:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bravo! I never thought about this before, but its definately true! I know a good deal of the webcomics I read now I found through links from the big famous webcomics I started off with in the first place :) The feature section of Drunkduck on their front page is another lovely place to find little gems that dont get much attention otherwise!
I already do speak up about any great webcomics Im reading when I update my own webcomic, and I will continue to do so to help others out, I never thought of it like that before!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bravo! I never thought about this before, but its definately true! I know a good deal of the webcomics I read now I found through links from the big famous webcomics I started off with in the first place :) The feature section of Drunkduck on their front page is another lovely place to find little gems that dont get much attention otherwise!<br />
I already do speak up about any great webcomics Im reading when I update my own webcomic, and I will continue to do so to help others out, I never thought of it like that before!</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Wick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan Wick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 17:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did I have a feeling Bengo was going to descend on here to rant about the Scott Kurtzes of the world...?

&quot;Do you think that if you send your audience to another site, they won’t come back? ‘Cause seriously, it doesn’t work like that!&quot;

But if you send your audience to another site, they might give their money to that site, and then it ISN&#039;T coming back. Oh, and do you think Tim Buckley wants to risk people seeing, say, &lt;i&gt;The Order of the Stick&lt;/i&gt; and deciding, &quot;Hey, &lt;i&gt;Ctrl+Alt+Del&lt;/i&gt; looks like crap compared to this! I don&#039;t wanna read it anymore!&quot; (Wait, I read and enjoy both strips. Never mind.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did I have a feeling Bengo was going to descend on here to rant about the Scott Kurtzes of the world&#8230;?</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you think that if you send your audience to another site, they won’t come back? ‘Cause seriously, it doesn’t work like that!&#8221;</p>
<p>But if you send your audience to another site, they might give their money to that site, and then it ISN&#8217;T coming back. Oh, and do you think Tim Buckley wants to risk people seeing, say, <i>The Order of the Stick</i> and deciding, &#8220;Hey, <i>Ctrl+Alt+Del</i> looks like crap compared to this! I don&#8217;t wanna read it anymore!&#8221; (Wait, I read and enjoy both strips. Never mind.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bengo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bengo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 08:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of us who work as a team, like my wife and me, are aware that life is much more difficult for people working alone. I known Tara is also married, but I bet she&#039;d agree that people who are more isolated really benefit from such love bombs because we were alone once too. When I re-read the comics I drew before I met my wife, they are more sad in some ways, and I didn&#039;t have to endure famous blowhard cartoonists hurling swear words at me like I do today.

The majority of &quot;successful&quot; (it&#039;s often feigned) cartoonists today are not in position by merit: they are survivors who found gimmicks that resonated with the fat college demographic. Unfortunately, they have a siege mentality, and most of the ones who are most prominent will do nothing to help you. In fact, they regard you as a force to be blocked.

Fighting them is a waste of energy. The webcomics new wave far outnumbers the grinches, and working to help each other will do far more for everyone than any other thing you can do, aside from making the best comic you possibly can.

I track analytics pretty closely using a bunch of both rickety and solid techniques, and the Old School is losing readers. I don&#039;t want to see them fail, I want to see them lose the cynicism, disdain and dishonesty that characterizes their professional conduct. I&#039;d like to see them stop behaving like juvenile delinquents in adult bodies. I&#039;d also like to see them invest some energy in their art and writing for a change, as many have gotten stale. Unfortunately, people don&#039;t change so easily, and I would say support for other comics *has* to be accompanied by an awareness of the serious shortcomings of those who would speak for the newer, more professional crowd, but do not represent our values at all.

Thanks for mentioning Mike of Lonely Fetus and his role. He&#039;s a neat guy, and has taught me quite a bit. Thanks, Mike.

I find your essay inspiring and will keep it close to heart.

Bengo


P.S. Unshelved is a library-life themed comic. It&#039;s notable in that it is one of several where speaking honorariums do most of the work to make it self-supporting. Others who mine method this are PhD comics and Scott McCloud.

Just a little fun fact. Not an endorsement. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of us who work as a team, like my wife and me, are aware that life is much more difficult for people working alone. I known Tara is also married, but I bet she&#8217;d agree that people who are more isolated really benefit from such love bombs because we were alone once too. When I re-read the comics I drew before I met my wife, they are more sad in some ways, and I didn&#8217;t have to endure famous blowhard cartoonists hurling swear words at me like I do today.</p>
<p>The majority of &#8220;successful&#8221; (it&#8217;s often feigned) cartoonists today are not in position by merit: they are survivors who found gimmicks that resonated with the fat college demographic. Unfortunately, they have a siege mentality, and most of the ones who are most prominent will do nothing to help you. In fact, they regard you as a force to be blocked.</p>
<p>Fighting them is a waste of energy. The webcomics new wave far outnumbers the grinches, and working to help each other will do far more for everyone than any other thing you can do, aside from making the best comic you possibly can.</p>
<p>I track analytics pretty closely using a bunch of both rickety and solid techniques, and the Old School is losing readers. I don&#8217;t want to see them fail, I want to see them lose the cynicism, disdain and dishonesty that characterizes their professional conduct. I&#8217;d like to see them stop behaving like juvenile delinquents in adult bodies. I&#8217;d also like to see them invest some energy in their art and writing for a change, as many have gotten stale. Unfortunately, people don&#8217;t change so easily, and I would say support for other comics *has* to be accompanied by an awareness of the serious shortcomings of those who would speak for the newer, more professional crowd, but do not represent our values at all.</p>
<p>Thanks for mentioning Mike of Lonely Fetus and his role. He&#8217;s a neat guy, and has taught me quite a bit. Thanks, Mike.</p>
<p>I find your essay inspiring and will keep it close to heart.</p>
<p>Bengo</p>
<p>P.S. Unshelved is a library-life themed comic. It&#8217;s notable in that it is one of several where speaking honorariums do most of the work to make it self-supporting. Others who mine method this are PhD comics and Scott McCloud.</p>
<p>Just a little fun fact. Not an endorsement. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Strip News 5-29-9 &#124; Strip News &#124; ArtPatient.com &#124; ArtPatient.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strip News 5-29-9 &#124; Strip News &#124; ArtPatient.com &#124; ArtPatient.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 04:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tells us how we (as a community) could SERIOUSLY ROCK. Go read it, I&#8217;ll [...]</description>
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		<title>By: KEZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KEZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 16:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sen: Well, if we got 10 or so middle-popular comics, I think we could get the same result! Personally, I think big popularity isn&#039;t worth it. You get crazy fans, or people who think it&#039;s their mission in life to tell you everything you&#039;re doing wrong, people screaming when you miss an update, your work is more often plagiarized, and THEN one day you find your comic on a blog like &quot;Your Webcomic is Bad and You Should Feel Bad.&quot;  D:

But yeah, you could ALSO grant your popularity to the masses. I wish more people thought like you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sen: Well, if we got 10 or so middle-popular comics, I think we could get the same result! Personally, I think big popularity isn&#8217;t worth it. You get crazy fans, or people who think it&#8217;s their mission in life to tell you everything you&#8217;re doing wrong, people screaming when you miss an update, your work is more often plagiarized, and THEN one day you find your comic on a blog like &#8220;Your Webcomic is Bad and You Should Feel Bad.&#8221;  D:</p>
<p>But yeah, you could ALSO grant your popularity to the masses. I wish more people thought like you!</p>
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		<title>By: KEZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KEZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 16:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@fluffy Octopus Pie! Good example! I&#039;m unfamiliar with Unshelved probably because I don&#039;t read PA. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fluffy Octopus Pie! Good example! I&#8217;m unfamiliar with Unshelved probably because I don&#8217;t read PA. :D</p>
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